Comments on: Paul van Dyk: Trance These Days Is Cheesy Shit

By: LLuncoolK

LLuncoolK — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:58:28 +0000

2002 was the expire date for many genres such as hip hop and R&B, I don't see any point of trying to save these genres because some CEO's at the recordcompanys wants to rip us for cash.
Totally agree with RuDeBoY, PvD probably needs to dig "deeper" in his pocket for that extra buck, maybe he's bored over at his dayjob!?

By: zeus

zeus — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:08:00 +0000

If its produced in the US, then you bet your ass its cheesy. All of you that say trance these days isnt great, then you just dont know how to find them << heres a hint, most are produced in europe.

By: RCdcCE

RCdcCE — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:22:17 +0000

Plenty of over done trance stereo types, but then what genre isn't overdone? I happen to think theres a lot of really excellent trance at the moment if you look for it, but thats probably because I havent listened to it much at all over the last 10 years. Maybe you lot are the full buckets and not the genre.

By: RuDeBoY

RuDeBoY — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:04:05 +0000

Haha the dyk was ALMOST saying his own music was cheesy shit, im wondering if the so called 'deeper meaning trance' was when he was paid an obscene amount of money to spin his own and his mates cheesy shit. God i love this man, he's a cheesy fuckin genius!

By: Dreamweaver

Dreamweaver — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:16:57 +0000

I was thinking it was a joke (a good one), but I gave it a try! The "trance" people love the Virus synthesizers too (and the JP-8080). Some of them are moving toward softsynth, but the veterans still stick to the hardware…

By: dajebus

dajebus — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:54:41 +0000

Sorry Dreamweaver. I was making a joke on how "trance " people love that keyboard. Problem is I love it too. And not just for the supersaw.

They show up on eBay all the time.
AND you get much better sound out of a softsynth anyway.

By: Dreamweaver

Dreamweaver — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:45:53 +0000

Hi! How much do you ask for the Roland JP-8000? Is it in perfect status? Do you have any accesories to it (flightcase, tutorials, etc)? Where are you from (country, city, etc)?

By: BlueBrat

BlueBrat — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:43:44 +0000

Wait, PVD makes cheesey shit himself and spins it! I gave up on this guy and a lot others because they got boring.

By: St B from DEAD PANDA

St B from DEAD PANDA — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:54:20 +0000

Perhaps it's unfair to generalize all trance artists, but I tend to agree, the genre has been beaten to death and the situation is made worse by the cookie cutter approach that so many trance musicians take, like Dajebus said, "by the numbers". If you are using the same softsynth or rig that the next guy/girl is using, and following the same 'code', then yeah, you are just adding drops of water to a full bucket. Sometimes a genre can be re-vitalized by an artist or group throwing the proverbial 'monkey-wrench' into the works, something radical and dynamic and therefore 'different'. But what artists could save trance, and then we must pose the question, is trance worth saving? (and I think Dajebus nailed it- 2002 was the expiration date!!!)

By: dajebus

dajebus — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:41:47 +0000

I think all trance made since 2002 is "cheesy shit".
trance has been dead for a long time. Very few new acts have done anything since it's peak back in the day.

I think it's so easy to make a trance track anyway. A few cheesy chord changes. A off tempo bass line. The break down. The "supersaw" or a variant. And your done.
It's just so by the numbers anyone can do it.
This is why its boring.

How many times can you just write the same song?

I have a JP-8000 for sale if any "trance" producers want it

By: Torley

Torley — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:24:22 +0000

I'd like to see "cheesy shit" defined in less ambiguous terms, like "The supersaw has great presence but so many 'trance producers' are using the exact same arpeggios and progressions — it sounds like it all came from one person, not varying creative masterminds!"