Comments on: Moby: The RIAA Needs To Be Disbanded

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By: synthhead

synthhead — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:38:42 +0000

She was found guilty of willfully sharing 24 tracks.

By: gadjitfreek

gadjitfreek — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:23:52 +0000

If my music ever becomes a hit (extremely unlikely, but weirder things have happened) I want to stay as far away from the RIAA as I possibly can. These crooks make all the money while the talent that actually made the product gets a pittance. It's like lawyers…they write the law, so we need to hire them when we need to do anything related to the law. They have a stranglehold on it.

By: Dave

Dave — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:17:14 +0000

I think they were talking on a larger scale then this one woman

By: Matt

Matt — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:00:59 +0000

Wow…has anyone not read this full story? That woman is stubbornly trying to say that she didn't break the law. Throughout both trials the RIAA has offered to let her settle for $3,000.

I download tons of music illegally, but if I get caught I'm not going to pretend I didn't commit a crime. Yes the RIAA bullies people but nearly every successful musician knows that it's there to serve a purpose. This woman should grow up and settle out of court before they really do make an example of her.

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:56:58 +0000

that woman tried that too, they called it destroying evidence, just pray that they don't already have an image clone of your HD.

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:35:05 +0000

lol don't kid yourself, they would hang you if they had that option. Ive seen these guys work up close and personal. Awhile ago I was working at a pizza joint in Ohio when who should waltz thru the door? oh my, men in black? whats going on here? they said they were from RIAA and they were here to conduct a review of our permits to play music in our business. We explained that our music was provided to us by its artist (who happened to be our oven guy) They still demanded to see what CD's we had, told us that we couldn't play anything, including the radio to our customers without a permit.

Now I've never met a leg breaker or a protection thug but I would imagine they are something like these clowns. oh and for the record, they hate to lose, they came back 3 times just to make sure we weren't playing copyrighted material. in the end we had the police come and tell them not to come back again. because at the end of the day, they don't have any legal power at all.

By: alphebeta

alphebeta — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:22:24 +0000

I found a number of websites from which to download tracks from. Over time, I wondered why albums appeared on some of these sites before being released on the US market. Some of the MP3 files were labeled with some strange comments about hacking. Some tracks were clearly bootlegs. After some really deep research, it turns out that many are selling pirated music for a fraction of the price. I'm probably like the average Joe, that doesn't realize this is illegal until a few albums-worth of downloading later. What does the RIAA propose to do to warn people about this? Sue and ask questions later? I'm deleting everything and trying alternatives to iTunes, like eMusic.

By: Matthew

Matthew — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:04:52 +0000

That is a scary thought Scott, but on the whole I think your right. the net can be very disturbing, vile, hateful, and dangerous, and I've been online since before even AOL was out, back when people were trading midi files over BBS boards. I personally don't listen to music these days anyway because its been so long since most artists have put out anything but garbage. They wonder why sales are down? oh its people steeling from them on the internet? did they stop to think that they just don't have any talent to market anymore?

Your rope comment got me thinking as well, what would happen I wonder if one of these people that the RIAA is after stood up in full court with jury and demanded the death penalty? Can you imagine the media storm? "Man to serve 20 years for bank robbery, Single parent to be hanged for downloading "Yesterday" by the beatles. People really need to get some perspective! (that includes you artists out there)

By: Scott

Scott — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:33:46 +0000

I think this is going way too far, the RIAA isn't even a government agency and yet it can search your person, business, snoop your hard drives for no reason but to look for music you may or may not have paid for? I do believe that we are protected by that kind of thing by this piece of paper called the constitution.

if 14 songs is enough to get you fined 2 million dollars, what about these kids out there running around with ipods that will hold 100,000 songs? do you honestly think that these people payed 2 to 3 hundred thousand dollars to fill it up?

Im sorry, but really folks, have you been around the net lately? popping people for downloading music is like calling out the swat team to deal violently with a jay walker while 2 doors down a bank is being robbed. (and in a court of law the bank robbers get off easier)

Today 2 million dollar fines, tomorrow, who knows, maybe they will start hanging people in front of the RIAA building to prove their point…..maybe at that point artists will start to take notice who represents them. hmmmm I wonder how much of that 2 million those 14 artist are going to get? maybe a few thousand? where does the rest go? oh that's right, the RIAA needs to buy lots of wood and rope and home depot just raised their prices.

By: aL:

aL: — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:03:03 +0000

The linked article from the UK Daily Mail, unfortunately, is far from clear as to whether this woman was uploading or downloading the tracks. If she was just downloading, then I absolutely agree that this judgment is ridiculous and insane as, even if you buy the RIAA logic, she can't be liable for much more than the regular online asking price from "legitimate" sources. If she was uploading… I have to say at some point, "yeah, it's theft", but then I also have to question what the point is to slap this woman with an noncollectable debt and what if anything it accomplishes in the interests of justice.

By: synthhead

synthhead — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:36:24 +0000

Torley – good point!

By: Torley

Torley — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:31:19 +0000

To Moby's credit, he did do Moby Gratis for filmmakers!

"you can then listen to the available music and download whatever you want to use in your film or video or short.
the music is free as long as it's being used in a non-commercial or non-profit film, video, or short."

http://www.mobygratis.com/film-music.html