asr x were great samplers, 16 level functionality is definitely a huge part of workflow for us mpc users, but i'm not blind to the other features that are here.

I don't know if it can do the same on it's 13 pads, which are also bankable so they go up and down the entire octave range.

we will just have to see. I don't see this as a replacement for my mpc 4000 because that thing is setup to be the main nerve center of any studio. It has 4 midi outs from the start, this only has one I think.

I think they are taking it in a different direction while still offering a lot of sampling and other features that many sampler users want.

but like everyone else, I'm just speculating and won't know until I actually use one.

I say use it all man! as long as it helps me make music it's good.

maschine can't be used without a pc so it already lost in the portable beat machine area.

I'm pretty sure they both are dope devices, that's the important thing about having choices.

I don't think it's "negro" oriented, it's hip hop oriented…which as we all know, covers various ethnic groups….

the target of the marketing isn't really my angle, I'm not all into the grillz and such…

I just want to see how it works, because it looks dope.

same as NI maschine, i can't wait to get mines.

I will agree with you about their markeitng angle, I don't like it much myself, but it doesn't put me off of the specs and workflow of the unit.

From what I can tell, just from the few videos I saw, the workflow is exactly how a producer works, not how some guy in a lab works.

but like you said, if it don't sound good, don't work right, then it don't really matter, but I am optimistic just based on the specsheet

I dont' care about their name, there are many producers out here that are nameless, doesn't take away from their knowledge. The real test will be the workflow, coming from a company of producers…the workflow should be pretty much flawless, a lot more than you'd expect from other companies.

the company is real, and despite what many thought, the machine is real….and it's going to give many grooveboxes some competition.

..I just want to see if it works like they say

pitch and mod wheel too? crazy.

They need to get a decent demo dude, though.

To me, it's like the EMU command stations, taken to the next level. Those machines where dope and just as capable as my mpc 4000 in terms of sequencing and timing, I had one of those as well.

But I always wished it could sample, that's how I look at the Beat Thang, it has it's own sound library, plus your own via sampling or loading wavs.

I don't know everything because I don't have it, I just think a lot of people are not taking it as serious because they are turned off by the marketing of it, and that's fine.

spec wise, yeah, it's a big deal. Show me a truly portable drum machine with these specs…you can't.

the mpc 500? that's a joke lol.

256mb ram standard, built in sounds, plus you can put two 32gb flash cards in it. No loading times on any of your sounds, rechargeable laptop battery, so it's mobile. Add all your own sounds to it and go.

compared to other hardware drum machines/samplers it crushes them all as a nice little production station.

I use an mpc 4000, and this thing looks very sexy compared to that, especially that it's portable. Not to mention the hardware integrates seamlessly with the software…

it's way more than a "my first little drum machine" lol

it has things that mpc and mv users have wanted for ages.

could it add a few more things? yes….

but they knew what to put in it, in my opinion

it doesn't replace the mpc as a central midi control center for your studio, but as a groove box/sampler/drum machine it definitely competes, especially at the pricepoint

you can't show me a "first little drum machine" that has any of these specs

Cheers