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	<title>Comments on: Livid Explains Why You Should Buy An Ohm64 Instead Of An APC40 Or A Novation Launchpad</title>
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		<title>By: thesis</title>
		<link>http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/11/02/livid-explains-why-you-should-buy-an-ohm64-instead-of-an-apc40-or-a-novation-launchpad/#comment-144781</link>
		<dc:creator>thesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the Ohm64 as a musical instrument that when looked after, can potentially last for a lifetime. Just like a quality guitar or a drumkit. 
 
Products like the APC40 or ZeroSL (I own one) are nice for what they are, but will inevitably have a limited number of years usage until something breaks, or the unit itself becomes obsolete and unsupported by the manufacturer. 
 
I&#039;ve had my ZeroSL for 3 years, and one of the knobs has stopped working. I know its not worth trying to find spare parts, let alone fixing it myself. I&#039;ll have to post the whole unit back to Novation (at my expense), who will source the parts from China, fix it themselves, post it back to me, and probably charge me half what I paid for the thing. 
 
I know that eventually my Zero SL will end up in that big cupboard full of random electronic equipment I don&#039;t use anymore. 
 
With the Ohm64 I know I can order the parts directly from the factory, open up the unit myself (without voiding any warranties) and replace whatever needs replacing. 
 
Ohm64 is definitely on my shopping list :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the Ohm64 as a musical instrument that when looked after, can potentially last for a lifetime. Just like a quality guitar or a drumkit. </p>
<p>Products like the APC40 or ZeroSL (I own one) are nice for what they are, but will inevitably have a limited number of years usage until something breaks, or the unit itself becomes obsolete and unsupported by the manufacturer. </p>
<p>I&#39;ve had my ZeroSL for 3 years, and one of the knobs has stopped working. I know its not worth trying to find spare parts, let alone fixing it myself. I&#39;ll have to post the whole unit back to Novation (at my expense), who will source the parts from China, fix it themselves, post it back to me, and probably charge me half what I paid for the thing. </p>
<p>I know that eventually my Zero SL will end up in that big cupboard full of random electronic equipment I don&#39;t use anymore. </p>
<p>With the Ohm64 I know I can order the parts directly from the factory, open up the unit myself (without voiding any warranties) and replace whatever needs replacing. </p>
<p>Ohm64 is definitely on my shopping list <img src='http://www.synthtopia.com/content/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: thesis</title>
		<link>http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/11/02/livid-explains-why-you-should-buy-an-ohm64-instead-of-an-apc40-or-a-novation-launchpad/#comment-144783</link>
		<dc:creator>thesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the Ohm64 as a musical instrument that when looked after, can potentially last for a lifetime. Just like a quality guitar or a drumkit. 
 
Products like the APC40 or ZeroSL (I own one) are nice for what they are, but will inevitably have a limited number of years usage until something breaks, or the unit itself becomes obsolete and unsupported by the manufacturer. 
 
I&#039;ve had my ZeroSL for 3 years, and one of the knobs has stopped working. I know its not worth trying to find spare parts, let alone fixing it myself. I&#039;ll have to post the whole unit back to Novation (at my expense), who will source the parts from China, fix it themselves, post it back to me, and probably charge me half what I paid for the thing. 
 
I know that eventually my Zero SL will end up in that big cupboard full of random electronic equipment I don&#039;t use anymore. 
 
With the Ohm64 I know I can order the parts directly from the factory, open up the unit myself (without voiding any warranties) and replace whatever needs replacing. 
 
Ohm64 is definitely on my shopping list :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the Ohm64 as a musical instrument that when looked after, can potentially last for a lifetime. Just like a quality guitar or a drumkit. </p>
<p>Products like the APC40 or ZeroSL (I own one) are nice for what they are, but will inevitably have a limited number of years usage until something breaks, or the unit itself becomes obsolete and unsupported by the manufacturer. </p>
<p>I&#39;ve had my ZeroSL for 3 years, and one of the knobs has stopped working. I know its not worth trying to find spare parts, let alone fixing it myself. I&#39;ll have to post the whole unit back to Novation (at my expense), who will source the parts from China, fix it themselves, post it back to me, and probably charge me half what I paid for the thing. </p>
<p>I know that eventually my Zero SL will end up in that big cupboard full of random electronic equipment I don&#39;t use anymore. </p>
<p>With the Ohm64 I know I can order the parts directly from the factory, open up the unit myself (without voiding any warranties) and replace whatever needs replacing. </p>
<p>Ohm64 is definitely on my shopping list <img src='http://www.synthtopia.com/content/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is this device: 
1. Similar 
2. Different 
from the monome? 
 
also, what&#039;s the functionality of this device with MAX/MSP? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this device:<br />
1. Similar<br />
2. Different<br />
from the monome? </p>
<p>also, what&#039;s the functionality of this device with MAX/MSP?</p>
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		<title>By: live-laptops</title>
		<link>http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/11/02/livid-explains-why-you-should-buy-an-ohm64-instead-of-an-apc40-or-a-novation-launchpad/#comment-143922</link>
		<dc:creator>live-laptops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second what Dajebus is saying.  
 
I got the APC40 because it suits what I wanted to do live. I weighed up the monome, launchpad, livid block and the APC40 before buying and the APC40 was right for me.  
 
The launchpad and APC40 are for the masses but the livid block and monome are for people who really want a complete open source controller. All these controllers have in common is they have a button matrix, they are for different markets. 
 
That said it&#039;s not great that Akai and Novation have jumped on what was a niche market and are now bringing it to the masses. Eventually people will want more control and quality and I can see this developing into sales for Livid and monome. 
 
Don&#039;t be dis heartened by the APC40 or launchpad Livid and keep doing what your doing. Respect for putting in so much hard work to create an original product. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second what Dajebus is saying.  </p>
<p>I got the APC40 because it suits what I wanted to do live. I weighed up the monome, launchpad, livid block and the APC40 before buying and the APC40 was right for me.  </p>
<p>The launchpad and APC40 are for the masses but the livid block and monome are for people who really want a complete open source controller. All these controllers have in common is they have a button matrix, they are for different markets. </p>
<p>That said it&#039;s not great that Akai and Novation have jumped on what was a niche market and are now bringing it to the masses. Eventually people will want more control and quality and I can see this developing into sales for Livid and monome. </p>
<p>Don&#039;t be dis heartened by the APC40 or launchpad Livid and keep doing what your doing. Respect for putting in so much hard work to create an original product.</p>
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		<title>By: Dajebus</title>
		<link>http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/11/02/livid-explains-why-you-should-buy-an-ohm64-instead-of-an-apc40-or-a-novation-launchpad/#comment-143907</link>
		<dc:creator>Dajebus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apples and oranges.  The Novation and Akai products are for the masses.  Made by large corps with cheap manufacturing. 
 
The Monome and Ohm64 are handmade.  For a small audience of the hardest of the hardcore.  The same people who will pay $800 dollars for filter module for a modular synth. 
Its really not the same audience. 
 
Its a little like Ferrari saying &quot;Honda stole our cup holder design&quot; 
Ferrari does not care what Honda does becuase Ferrari does not make a 15,000$ car. 
Monome and Livid do not make a sub $400 controller. 
 
Will they lose money to Akai or Novation?  Probably.   
But only becuase most people don&#039;t have $500+ to spend on a controller.  
 
Right or wrong.  It always comes back to money.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apples and oranges.  The Novation and Akai products are for the masses.  Made by large corps with cheap manufacturing. </p>
<p>The Monome and Ohm64 are handmade.  For a small audience of the hardest of the hardcore.  The same people who will pay $800 dollars for filter module for a modular synth.<br />
Its really not the same audience. </p>
<p>Its a little like Ferrari saying &quot;Honda stole our cup holder design&quot;<br />
Ferrari does not care what Honda does becuase Ferrari does not make a 15,000$ car.<br />
Monome and Livid do not make a sub $400 controller. </p>
<p>Will they lose money to Akai or Novation?  Probably.<br />
But only becuase most people don&#039;t have $500+ to spend on a controller.  </p>
<p>Right or wrong.  It always comes back to money.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/11/02/livid-explains-why-you-should-buy-an-ohm64-instead-of-an-apc40-or-a-novation-launchpad/#comment-143895</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@heartpound: While we share somethings with the monome, we actually offer a device that monome does not, using a communications protocol the monome doesn&#039;t use, in a distribution channel that the monome does not occupy. There is not an attempt to undercut, but evolve from our beginnings (check our history page on our site), and also build on ideas the monome offers. If we simply kept offering the same buttons we did in 2001, we&#039;d have people asking &quot;why don&#039;t you have LED talkback like the monome?&quot; I&#039;m not complaining about getting &quot;undercut&quot; by akai - but from where we sit, it&#039;s pretty tall competition that initially overwhelmed us, but has actually help us gain perspective in what we do. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@heartpound: While we share somethings with the monome, we actually offer a device that monome does not, using a communications protocol the monome doesn&#039;t use, in a distribution channel that the monome does not occupy. There is not an attempt to undercut, but evolve from our beginnings (check our history page on our site), and also build on ideas the monome offers. If we simply kept offering the same buttons we did in 2001, we&#039;d have people asking &quot;why don&#039;t you have LED talkback like the monome?&quot; I&#039;m not complaining about getting &quot;undercut&quot; by akai &#8211; but from where we sit, it&#039;s pretty tall competition that initially overwhelmed us, but has actually help us gain perspective in what we do.</p>
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		<title>By: heartpound</title>
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		<dc:creator>heartpound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a bit ironic that they&#039;re complaining about getting undercut by Akai when they themselves are trying to undercut the Monome. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s a bit ironic that they&#039;re complaining about getting undercut by Akai when they themselves are trying to undercut the Monome.</p>
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