This video demonstrates an old trick for expanding the palette of sounds you can make with a MiniMoog – feeding the output of the synth back as input.
via timtsang3:
This is a simple “overload” trick that’s been posted on the Moog Music Forum for some time now, and I found it to be real helpful.
You totally dont need a distortion pedal if you have a Moog Voyager. The whole thing IS a distortion pedal.
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Checkmate, VSTs…
Anyone that needs a tutorial to “make their Moog sound fat” should buy me any Moog and I would gladly show them how.
Not had any offers yet. Don’t all rush at once guys!
the fist line say it all – “it is a old trick “- this is hardly a secret
Neither is the Minimoog. But age and experience have taught me that tricks like this rapidly get forgotten, and new dogs need to be taught the old tricks all over again. So often, nowadays, old knowledge passes for new discoveries, and the revealer is lauded as a prophet (sic) in his own time.
One way around this is to turn the gain up on the desk, and the volume down to a sensible level and get a nice controlled distorted sound.
Moogs are having to keep up with the competition, it is not the competition that is keeping up with moog!! hence the advertising frenzy of Moog as they are loosing out to cooler companies making good equipment at sensible prices.
What competition are you saying that Moog has to keep up with, and where is this ‘advertising frenzy’?
When it comes to analog synth keyboards, it’s Moog, Dave Smith and that’s about it. There are a few small companies making niche analogs, but none of them really compete with Moog or DSI.
Sounds cool i guess
I didn’t find the old trick to be that impressive.This is completely off topic,but,I wonder how hard it would be for a synth company to have an oscilloscope included on the front panel instead of an XY pad.
That’d look cool – but do you really want to look at your sounds or do you want to play them?
Definitely: both 🙂
Adafruit,Dave Smith,Mode Machines,Artruria,Doepfer,Acidlab,
You must be a bit out of touch with what is going on in synthesis manufacturering .
Check out Modular square and see that there is over 40 companies making decent equipment.
Eowave,Analogue Systems, etc etc .
“You must be a bit out of touch with what is going on in synthesis manufacturering”
Or maybe you’re just being a troll?
Tell me more about these companies that make analog synth keyboards that compete with what Moog and DSI are making!
I’d be especially interested to hear about the companies that make analog synth keyboards that compare to a three oscillator, highly spec’d out, wood & steel Minimoog – which was the subject of this post. I was under the impression that most small synth manufacturers make niche synth MODULES or Eurorack modular synth MODULES.
The one main exception is Arturia, with the MiniBrute. But, if you think a one oscillator, plastic synth really competes with a MiniMoog, you might be the one who’s ‘out of touch’.
I too am a bit confounded by the anti-Moog animus. They are cool synths and not a lot out there is comparable. Probably because the market can’t bear too much similarity, which may explain why Oberheim stays out of that particular market and Arp folded. Dave Smiths sound very different and thus are complementary to Moogs. Time will tell whether the new Arturia Minibrute stacks up to those two with a classic, recognizable voice as they do. It’s not plastic though so don’t slag the newcomer so mercifully!
Moog and DSI are overpriced under-performers.
Oooooooohhhhh
One oscillator is more than enough for a lot of bass lines, leads lines etc. Rolands popular gear is mainly one oscillator. You really can’t discredit synths with one oscilator nor synth users with such gear.
As a one time owner of a voyager , I v rarely used the third oscillator and quite honestly it hindered sound for me rather than enhance it.
The moog minotaur which I demoed in Berlin last week Kreuzberg synth shop it looked hilarious. It was tiny!!! so you make a point about plastic y synths well, pat moog on the back for that one. Made of metal, ok but ten pence worth of metal.
By the way I was in Berlin to see Juan Atkins at Tresor travelling from Manchester with another techno guy, we are both producers, and have shit loads of vinyl out and coming out.This ain’t a pose , music is what we do , this gear we use is a day to day practical thing for us.To be critical is necessary to find good products and reliable gear.
Many of us producers do use cheap gear , cause it is cheap and we can get great sounds out of it.
The idea we have to buy absurdly priced moogs to be credible as electronic musicians is a laugh.
The roots of Detroit techno,House, Chicago acid, Electro came from cheap electronic gear. The idea that what you are able to spend determines the vale of your music or ‘standing’ is plainly a joke!!
Moogs are very expensive and I found to my expense the voyager rack was a seriously bad buy.
In spite of the idea it is hands on, you end up wading thru sub menus and simply that stupid back lit panel makes an irritating high pitched sound when you turn it on. At that price it should not do that .
Cheap and nasty electronic music and gear is where its at for me.
the situationists said
‘politeness is the art of non commnication!!’
Not everybody does (Detroit) Techno. If you don’t need three oscillators or immediate control in the way the Voyager offers, then that’s be no means an indication that the instrument itself is bad or overpriced. It’s a solid synthesizer that does sound great, but like any synth it’s not for everybody. Use the tools you because after all those things are all just tools that ought to do a job.
I would say that most groundbreaking electronic music, has been done on cheap shit gear.
Be it Cabaret Voltaire, Joy Division,Pyschic Tv,The Normal, Human League etc.
The reference to Detroit is a preference and my tastes are wide, but I wold say practically all UK electronic music has it’s routes in working class communities. Check out Synth Brittania.
Give your ultra expensive prog rock moog a polish and realise you can buy a desk , synths and speakers for that amount of lolly!!
Any desk can distort a synth signal!!
Ask not what your synth can do for you but what you can do for your synth.
Old trick for the minimoog yea, I use a large amount of feedback in my studio, digital effects in particular can do amazing things with feedback.