15 thoughts on “An Introduction To Bitwig’s Modulation System

  1. Oh, how good is a modulation system if the software is broken to the core? Bitwig. 2 years of beta test. Released a half-backed product and expect to get paid for it. That’s abusing people’s good will who assume they are buying a software that is fully working. But not. Unbelievable. There are a lot of people frustrated and disappointed because they can’t even finish songs with it. Presets lost, no undos for VST, VST crash protection is useless, can’t load VSTs anymore, no VST multi-outs, no group tracks, no AU, no rewire, crashes, bugs, bugs, bugs. Serious problems with the audio engine, automation, PDC, etc. Clearly the biggest WTF in the history of music software.

    1. sounds like you are describing Ableton to me – seriously – its unacceptably buggy and they have had way more time to iron it out. You can point to other DAWs for stability but they don’t offer the same creative options as Ableton or Bitwig. Bitwig is an astounding accomplishment and they have showen every intention of working every but out, UNLIKE ABLETON.

      1. Most Ableton bugs comes from VSTs. The rest of the software is pretty stable. You don’t find problems like can’t find your presets anymore or the audio doesn’t work. There are acceptable bugs and unacceptable ones. Bitwig is full of unacceptable ones because it simply renders their product unusable. And of course they have to show they want to fix those bugs, otherwise they die. They have a history of lies with their looooong “beta testing” phase.

    2. You sound far to affected by all this. If you don’t like it, don’t concern yourself with it. Spewing hate is immature and useless.

      1. Releasing unfinished software for 400 bucks when it’s actually a beta (and broken) spews hate, it’s immature and useless.

        1. That argument doesn’t hold. First releasing unfinished software has nothing to do with “hate”, laziness maybe but not hate. It may in turn create hate but it doesn’t actually come out with hate.

          Second, any experienced software developer can tell you that a piece of software such as this is never finished. I don’t think the makers of bigwig are intentionally releasing a trash app and hoping to rake in the dough..

          What they tried to do is make an application that can hold it’s own against apps that are on their 8th and 9th iterations. That’s an insanely hard thing to do and to expect the first release not to have issues is ignorant. But a lot of people are ignorant when it comes to software, so that’s okay.

          I didn’t expect this release to be anywhere close to bug free (the first release of any app this size is never 100% bug free). The idea here is that they created a DAW with future growth in mind. Meaning they will be able to add features and change things more easily than other applications that didn’t anticipate the things they would want to do in the future. The architecture is extremely important in software and they are claiming to have built this with that in mind. If what they claim is true, once the fix the bugs (and they will given some time) it could prove to be a very competitive DAW given the features they’ve implemented.

          1. “Any experienced software developer can tell you that a piece of software such as this is never finished.”

            While this may be true, some companies are much better at beta-testing their software. I was a tester for Propellerhead’s Reason and ReCycle. Testing went on for a LONG time and when they were finally released, you felt you had a SOLID product. This is evidenced by the fact that updates were released months and sometimes years (in the case of ReCycle) apart, and these were usually new features. In the case of Bitwig, there’s been what? 7 revisions already in a couple of weeks? MAJOR BUGS. It seems like this was released way too early.

  2. I’ve not had chance to try it myself but it certainly looks like it’s trying some interesting ideas. I feel ableton has been getting stale for a while and Bitwig seems to have brought some much needed competition which will hopefully mean both will become even better!

  3. I purchased it because it’s and investment for the future
    I’m not a musician but using Bitwing in one single day I found a lot of issues.
    It’s a Kickstart and not a mature product for the market.
    It’s full filled by good ideas but lacks the basic ones: vst3, AU support, drag and drop of midi events from vsts, non compatible with many plugins, no preroll, no auto quantize, etc.
    Probably Ableton is laughing…
    But it’s ok, I think that Bitwig soon will fill the gap with the other daws.
    I trust in Bitwig.

    1. Don’t post uninformed comments as though you’re teaching people something. Have you tried the demo? Did you watch the video? He clearly says he’s using version 1.0.3 and if you’d run the demo you’d know that you can do everything he does in this video in version 1 of Bitwig Studio.

  4. I have to say that this is the smartest GUI approach to modulation that I’ve ever seen. The immediate visual feedback is an inspired idea. It strikes me as very musical. I’d love for that to be the case with every software instrument. It seems totally natural for SYNTHS. Its a unique gestural behavior, like playing a violin “at the frog.”

  5. Although I may never make the switch from Ableton Live to Bitwig, I really hope Bitwig takes off so that Live finally has some real competition. Hopefully Ableton will get back into making real design decisions regarding the interplay of clip launcher mode and arrangement mode. If someone develops a working script for the Ableton Push to be used in Bitwig’s clip AND arrangement views I think it will really open Ableton’s eyes up about what they should be doing.

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