This video features an in-depth overview and demo of the upcoming Behringer DeepMind 12 polyphonic analog synthesizer.
Allert from Sonar Traffic has been working on patches for the DeepMind 12 and offers an in-depth hands-on demo of the new 12-voice polyphonic analog synthesizer.
Check it out and let us know what you think of the DeepMind 12!
Pricing and Availability
The Behringer DeepMind 12 is priced at about $1,000 and is expected to be available in late 2016.
via Sonic State
If I could build synths this would be exactly how it would be but I would add an embedded touch screen tablet for control and internal interface.
usb midi host – all synths should have a usb midi host that can power+ recognize class compliant usb devices – none of them ever do
Parva has this. Only one that I know does.
hadn’t seen that – looks cool, I wish more syths would build it in as it wouldn’t be that difficult or expensive and it would keep me from having to cart around my iconnectmidi when I want to attach to various controllers
Almost every synth has USB connection other than MIDI.
USB powered keyboards will simply not happen.
First of all, the components to make a USB MIDI host aren’t free, so that would add to the cost of the synth.
Second, it would be kind of a waste for EVERY synth to have a host, when all you REALLY need is one USB MIDI host, and a MIDI network that allows you to change which synth is controlled by a controller just by changing channel
There is an iPad editor that will be available and it has built in bluetooth (or wi-fi) to connect I think. So they may have built your dream synth.
I would add an “Analog” button so I can turn the analog sound on and off.
Finally..
we cant see the video in Germany :_(
Too much talk not enough sounds.
Agreed, but the information is useful.
Would have been nice to hear those envelopes and not just see them.
I’m impressed with the amount of features. The menus don’t look annoying, and the screen seems to be a good size for the amount of parameters. I like the option of modulating everything. The only thing more I want is parameter locking, and automation recording in the sequencer.
Excellent. Lot of options for deeply thoughtful design.
I quite fancy a bowl of rice pudding.
This looks great. Pretty excited for all the Behringer haters to eat their hats.
not even a chord played or any real sound to judge.
behringer needs to do an analog drum machine next, like a tempest or analog rytm and id buy that so fast. unless its $999 too the maybe not, lol.
If they could make it or the tabletop version multi timbral, then it could be a drum synth too. But that probably won’t happen.
I understand the price point, but a blocky LED screen is poor, why not put a decent hi res screen on it?
999.-, 12 voices. Did I hear anyone complain with the dsi stuff??
People complain about everything, including dsi.
I would think the CPU chip in this synth runs all 36 envelopes and 24 LFO’s, also runs the display, so they kept the display simple as not to degrade the performance. Besides if you want a hi-res screen just use the iPad editor.
I haven’t seen whether you can layer sounds? I’m thinking of the Roland Super JX / MKS 70, or the DSI Prophet 12 or even the KingKORG, where you can turn 12 voices of polyphony into 2-layer sounds with 6 voices each? Roland even have this “chase” function where one layer can be delayed and transposed from the first.
sounds not bad but wont buy without knob per function (at least for the most obvious stuff like envelopes)
Agreed. To me screens are a very producer / studio oriented means of control. As a performer, I feel this product isn’t geared towards me.
Kudos for the full size keys though.
This synth is as performance geared as it gets
It’s monotimbral, you can’t layer sounds. I didn’t see or hear anything that amazing. I honestly think that once you put it through digital effects, you can basically do the same thing with VSTs. I don’t know.. I have enough analog synths for a lifetime, note sure if this is even necessary for me.
Hopeless – unplanned and unscripted, this waffle just rambles around, with no coherent useful information, very little in the way of actual sounds. While “slick” presentations can sometimes appear over the top, watching the difference between this, and, say, a demo by Eric Persing of Omnisphere, this really comes across as amateur hour. What a waste of time. The guy has no real idea – he keeps saying “I THINK it’s in here” or “I THINK it does this”. “What did I just do?” etc.
What a waste of an opportunity to get a proper look at this thing.
Waffle?
It’s almost like it’s a quick look of an unreleased synth by a guy who just happens to have a prototype.
Ok interview but is the DM12 multi-timbral? Being at least bi-timbral is good but multi on an analog is heaven. Also I would have liked to have heard the expo envelopes & others on the VCA, these can add a lot to the overall sound & quality. Alarm bells do go off with a lot of menu diving, which can be counter productive but on an instrument of this price acceptable, where’s that I-pad editor?? Looking fwd to having a play & checking out the module version when it’s produced.
Maybe this one is more interesting in terms of sounds?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0XjNsfccSU
Nope not interesting, because as discussed when this was posted here a day ago, the drum track and multiple parts distract from hearing the raw sounds.
I see – but this is a general issue, which is present when looking at vendors of sample libraries, synth presets etc. Only very few “naked” demos are offered these days and I wrote to several companies about this problem (since I did purchase stuff just to find out that the particular sounds I was after were added from other products). The general response is: People want to hear things in context. Hmmm, one may like it or not, but it seems that Behringer is no exception here up to now.
Sure has alot of spinning that main parameter knob.
Reminds me of spinning the alphadial on the Junos.
Why don’t they STFU and run a LINE OUT and capture what this thing SOUNDS LIKE. WTF??
I hear a lot of synth people canceling their pre-orders for the MatrixBrute.
Wait….someone actually pre-ordered that?
Brave….very brave.
This thing is totally lame. It doesn’t even have a knob-per-funtion FM engine and in-line bi-timbral saxophone. Call me when it’s $200.
If it can’t hack an iphone and call me itself, I’m not buying.
This video hasn’t done Behringer any favours.
Storm in a cup of tea.
sounds a lot like a d 50! i duno about this unit especially at this price, with this sound.
That’s not a compliment for the D50.
The D50 was and still is totally unique, which cannot be said about the DM12.
You can pick up a D50 for a third of the price of this thing.
my point exactly. sounds from the d12 so far are shockingly tame! the d50 gets more bite out of its circuit than this dco-yet-stil-sterile-digital-sounding-jungle! plenty of noise and swish in the sound sure but where is the analog boom??? give me the sound of OLD VANGELIS DEMOS and i’ll buy.
I’m looking forward to a video where someone plays the damn thing. Not as some kind of novelty, but as a musical instrument. Behringer: Get some keyboard players (not synthesists or producers). But, wait, if next week there’s a video with Jordan Rudess gushing over the thing, I might see that sometimes it’s not pretty getting what you wished for.
Very disappointing that it doesn’t have a knob/slider per function. As far as I’m concerned, put the missing buttons, knobs and sliders where the screen is and the screen becomes obsolete! Real synths do not have screens.
There’s now also a Sonic Talk dedicated to answering questions about the DM12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c21lI0yc5Z8
The reason that the Juno 106 (which apparently inspired this synth) worked so well and has become such a classic, is in large part, due to not only it’s sound but also it’s strait forward simplicity. I worry that this synth may have too many distractions built into it with all the re-routing, the screen etc. Still interested to see what someone like Nick Batt says about it.
After watching this, I watched the Sonic Talk video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c21lI0yc5Z8 . Allert Alders, the gentleman that’s programming the DM-12, appears in both. He is very matter-of-fact and not very excited about the synth. I think this is rubbing off on all of us. He does say the keyboard players he works with are excited and one is going to get one instead of a P6. I think once we start hearing some finished sounds, we’re going to like this a lot more. But hearing is believing. The jury is still out for me!
Giving away prototypes to people who are not familiar with the instrument is not a good idea… Behringer does not need this kind of publicity from the guy that is just a knob.
Why Nick didn’t review it…?!