Behringer today announced that they are dropping prices on many of their synths, with price reductions of up to 60%.
The company says it’s responding to improvements to the global supply chain issues that, over the last three years, have driven a production slowdown and price increases across the industry.
“As semiconductors become more available and prices come down, we’re able to ramp up production. In line with our promise to share our savings with you, we’re really excited to lower our pricing by up to 60%.”
Many of the price drops are small, like a $10 price cut on the $149 Brains module. But some of the price reductions are substantial, including:
- Behringer System 55 – $1400 price cut to $1,599
- Behringer System 35 – $1500 price cut to $999
- Behringer System 15 – $900 price cut to $799
- Behringer Poly D – $210 price cut to $599
- Behringer DeepMind 12 – $130 price cut to $799
- Behringer 2600 – $200 price cut to $499
- Behringer MonoPoly – $210 price cut to $599
- Behringer Wasp – $80 price cut to $149
- Behringer Cat – $150 price cut to $199
- Behringer TD-3 – $30 price cut to $129
In these instances, the price cuts are big enough that they will significantly disrupt the market for used Behringer synths. For example, every used Poly D on Reverb is currently priced substantially higher than the price to buy it new:
Behringer says that prices should be updated at their ‘Superpartner’ websites, including Amazon and others.
What do you think about Behringer’s price cuts? Share your thoughts in the comments!
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Damn. NGL, that makes the System 55 start to look really interesting.
Yeah, if you don’t mind waiting until 2028 for it to come to market.
When are Uli and his team of knock-off merchants going to stop LYING to us!!?
what? System 55 been available, and in my studio since early 2020.
so, these prices are back to what retail was before the global inflation. nice. clean out that stock for new arrivals.
Great that Behringer are now able to knockoff the price of their synths.
Who’d uh thunk it¿b-ear-ringer lowerin’ their prices¿(weren’t they already?¿)don’t quite know what tooo make of this¿how these clone clowns operate is somewhat baffling…questions fester & persist ahead of the schist. IF their sC supply is suddenly plentiful, was there ever a discrepancy for’em or are they trying tooo pull a fast one with somekind of fishy knockoff backstock scheme tooo alleviate a backlog of shite they can’t unload¿what¡ ARE they kiddin’: who the hell knows, seems like this might blowup right in the face of these joke jockies; perhaps summarily but what do I know kid’s¡! thanx folks
where can I learn to type like that? mine is always boring normal.
He uses the Ali G translator for his replies here on Synthtopia -> http://www.whoohoo.co.uk/main.asp
Seems like bot language
Comment clowns gonna hate, but lovers of cheap and affordable synth won’t be irate. I’ll be jamming on my poly d here in America, you can keep stomping your feet about clones… unless they’re made by Erica.
Iwouldandany othrts,get loifeifthink otherwise
this one’s figured it out. lay off the benzo’s dude.
Very interesting. I wonder if the proposed price for the UB-XA synth will also be lower?
The B word haters are quietly loading their Sweetwater carts with synths on sale.
I think I’ll order a Wasp.
ain’t it the truth? I’ve got to stock up on System 55 parts for a 2nd build; I’ve got some sweet AMsynth modules to put to use – 984 mixer, 993 trigger & envelope switch, ring mod, and a H/L filter module. also a couple more of those nutty 1050 sequential 8×2 switches – swap the white LEDS and put white, blue, red, and yellow in and finish my Mutable build.
Some of us are not hypocritical in the choices we make “Tim”. Behringer’s clone mating practise is not as objectionable as Uli unethical manner, behaviour, and petulant reciprocity against any kind of dissent or criticism, a la Elon “Muck”.
Uli is no longer even paying homage as much as he is taking the piss with these designs and creepy design stalker sensibilities. However to those like you, whom don’t care for such trivialities as ethics and decent conduct, fill your cart to your heart’s content.
LOL. Thanks for the morality lesson and condescension. Let me guess, you ALWAYS only buy brand name products from all moral companies, right?
Tell me where I can buy a new Wasp Deluxe for $150, and I will go buy that instead.
That is false equivalence. As a life long developer, I attempt to practice what I believe to be right course of action. And I regret that a morality lesson had to come your way at this late hour of your life and by me no less, and I certainly do not always purchase name brand. However when a company or individual has repeatedly shown themselves to be morally and or ethically bankrupt, then I do indeed look elsewhere, and I can do without a Wasp no matter how enticing a price.
And you needn’t worry since price seems to determine much for you , the condescension is on the house.
And there is a greater point here, prices did not suddenly decline in such a dramatic fashion as they stabilised some time ago, and yet Behringer has been enjoy these margins for some time at the expense of the musicians they claim to wish to protect.
bring back Modern2!!!
I love Behringer synths, i sold all my gear to fill up my studio with all their products, ps i also have their brand as a tattoo
“…and I certainly do not always purchase name brand.”
Ah, I see. So, you are selective with your morality.
Then exactly what about “…not always purchase name brand” isn’t unethical when they are copying and undercutting a name brand product that they did not originally create?
“And there is a greater point here,…” Really? Every company in the world is out to make money. You act as if Behringer is the only company that enjoys profits? This goes on all the time all over the world. You don’t think other companies, “…enjoy these margins.” And how many companies bother to lower prices at all (until, like Korg and their Opsix hardware synth, they discontinue a product. I paid a bit over $300 for a new Opsix in the box. Did Korg enjoy their margins when they sold the Opsix for over $700).
You are insufferably obtuse in understanding the difference between off brand and blatant replicas of an original. Every company makes SUVs, that is a conceptual discipline, however a few years ago when a subsidiary of Geely’s made a near replica of BMW’s X5, BMW threatened legal action.
Since you are struggling with all of this, I’ll attempt to explain; Behringer’s revival of old designs are well within their rights and legal. However Behringer has for years violated patents (Dave Smith, Roland, and others), reverse engineered other products with the intent to copy and reproduce IP protected designs (Mackie and Zoom) and they have threatened legal action against journalists and individuals whom have had the gall to expose Uli’s modus operandi.
Yes, I’m selective in making my decisions. Far better than never being able to decipher what may or may not be ethically objectionable. If I purchase a coat that looks like a ‘knockoff’ of say Hugo Boss, and they call their coat Hogu Buss, that is ethically wrong amongst other things, yet if I purchase a coat that is off brand and serves the same function that a name brand coat maker does at a fraction of the price, it’s called….buying a bloody coat!
If you cannot understand that Uli’s conduct is at the forefront of this discussion, then there is no discussion to be had.
Save your breath, brother. It’s exactly like trying to reason with trumpists – it can’t be done :-))
You are spot on Mr. Slayer….
It’s an ethical interpretation regarding musical instrument purchases based on subjectivity. Do you expect everyone to always agree with your opinions? Reason only and always lines up with your opinion and no one else’s?
Everyone has to live within our society and global economics. Even if we don’t like how things are, it’s not inconsistent to live within the system. And it’s up to everyone to decide how they do that.
For some people, that means no Neutron, for some it means no Boog, for some no Wasp, all different lines to draw. Some people boycott Nestle. Some people quit twitter. Some people don’t like the history of Hugo Boss, to be honest. Some people boycott SUVs. Others fight different battles in different places.
Yes, thank you. Choosing when to spend money and when not to spend money when taking ethical concerns into consideration will vary from person to person.
“…insufferably obtuse…” Ooooh….I like that one.
“…the difference between off brand and blatant replicas of an original.” I have a Model D and an Odyssey, with a Wasp on its way from Sweetwater. None of them is a replica of the original. I also have a Neutron.
“Every company makes SUVs, that is a conceptual discipline, however a few years ago when a subsidiary of Geely’s made a near replica of BMW’s X5, BMW threatened legal action.”
This comparison just proves my earlier point. This kind of thing happens all the time throughout the business world with many companies.
“Behringer’s revival of old designs are well within their rights and legal.”
Bingo! Behringer and hundreds of thousands of other companies worldwide do the same type of thing. As another poster mentioned here, as one example of many, just walk down the aisles at any Aldi’s store.
“However Behringer has for years violated patents (Dave Smith, Roland, and others), reverse engineered other products with the intent to copy and reproduce IP protected designs (Mackie and Zoom) and they have threatened legal action against journalists and individuals whom have had the gall to expose Uli’s modus operandi.”
This happens so much in the business world that it’s almost laughable to single out Behringer.
Roland has been sued for patent infringement:
Korg and Yamaha have been sued for patent infringement:
Alesis has been sued for patent infringement (by Roland):
Korg has gone after the little guy and his patents:
Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc…..The number of these types of stories in and out of the music industry are too many to count.
“Yes, I’m selective in making my decisions. Far better than never being able to decipher what may or may not be ethically objectionable.”
This is 100% subjective. This is your opinion. What may be ethically objectionable to you regarding products and business practices doesn’t preclude others from buying and using these same products. You are looking down at others who disagree with you about what is subjectively “…ethically objectionable…” regarding musical instruments.
“If I purchase a coat that looks like a ‘knockoff’ of say Hugo Boss, and they call their coat Hogu Buss, that is ethically wrong amongst other things, yet if I purchase a coat that is off brand and serves the same function that a name brand coat maker does at a fraction of the price, it’s called….buying a bloody coat!”
So, if it looks just like a Hugo Boss coat but isn’t called Hogu Buss, it’s okay?
Yet an “…off brand..” that serves the same function is buying a bloody (fill in the blank).” What is the difference between an “…off brand…” and a “knock-off if they are mimicking and undercutting the original? If Behringer kept the electronics exactly the same but made the panel of their Model D look entirely different and called it something else that didn’t invoke the Minimoog, that would be okay, that would be an off brand?
“If you cannot understand that Uli’s conduct is at the forefront of this discussion, then there is no discussion to be had.”
I get this argument. I do. The business world is cutthroat, and their business practices like hundreds of thousands of other companies worldwide reflect that from time to time. Do I agree with everything many companies do and have done? No. Do I always buy name brand foods at the grocery store and other places? No. Do I buy products at the grocery store that look suspiciously like the name brand items sitting near them on the shelf. Yes I do, but I still do buy some name brand products. As I have mentioned many times, I am not a collector, I am a musician who sees synths as musical tools. Along with three Korgs synths, three Roland synths, a Roland digital piano, an Alesis Ion, and numerous soft-synths I have a Model D, a Neutron, an Odyssey, and a Wasp on the way from Sweetwater. Tell me where else I can buy a Wasp for $150 and I will buy it. I like the Odyssey. I paid $399 for it on Black Friday 2021 via Sweetwater. I love love love the Neutron. It’s a great piece of gear (especially for the price). If someone wants to take my Neutron from me, they’re going to have to pry it from my cold dead hands. And I am looking forward to firing up the Wasp this week. If you feel compelled to avoid their products. Then more power to you. I can respect that opinion.
TimS, you needn’t agree with me at all, however I hope that there is some moral compass that informs your decisions. Singling out Behringer as the worst offender of the lot is well placed, sourced, and validated. That said, it does not mean that mean they are the lone “wolf” amongst the sheep. (Off Tangent, wolves are beautiful and amazing creatures, loyal and profoundly loving). Alright, they are not the lone criminally minded. Uli built his empire one some of the unscrupulous practices within the industry.
I hope you enjoy your Wasp and that it brings you joy. However my greater hope is that for all of to change the world for the better, will require that we make greater changes in our habits and behaviour and where we put our monies…..I have yet to find an alternative to my iPhone, however now I use Framework as my main computer. The transition has not been simple nor easy. Yet I cannot live in hypocrisy, and I assure you I am deeply flawed. Still I feel the responsibility to change the world begins at home and the decisions we make.
And now, I am going to exercise a bit of kindness, something I am not known for….cheers to you.
I think that a lot of the ripoff talk forgets that only since the 90s has this been objectionable. Prior to this it was common practice for companies to copy and make their own version of existing products. Heck even in the music world you can look to the biggest ripoff manufacturers in the industry – yamaha, ibanez, ESP, etc and ask yourself where they are now? in consumer electronics there were companies panasonic who were constantly panned for copying sony etc. Honestly no one would really care if it wasn’t for the fact that Behringer is the only large scale manufacturer doing it.
Not why I won’t buy Behringer, and I still won’t as price has nothing to do with it, but good on them. They didn’t have to do it.
Just curious, why do you have behringer?
I don’t have $5,000 – $20,000 that I would spend on a Minimoog. A few years back, I got a $300 alternative and was very impressed with it. I later got a Neutron and then later still an Odyssey when it was on a Black Friday sale. I use these synths often and have had zero problems with them, zip, zero, nadda. They are a lot of fun. I am not a synth collector. To me they are musical tools as a hobbyist. I got interested in synthesizers in the early 1980s thanks to Gary Numan and Ultravox. Both of these music acts made much use of the Minimoog. Almost every Ultravox synth bass part (New Europeans, Mr. X, Vienna, We Stand Alone, The Thin Wall, etc) was done via Minimoog. For me, Behringer has provided affordable hardware alternatives. I do like soft-synths and have many, but there are things about hardware that soft-synths don’t capture. Have a great day / evening.
Anyone who says that the Model D doesn’t sound like a Minimoog is fooling themselves:
I feel exactly the same… and I also grew up loving Numan and Vox with Chris Cross’s Minimoog bass parts a particular delight. And, of course, John Foxx who made Metamatic on 8-track tape with little more than an Odyssey and a string machine. Behringer should be praised for their work in providing low-cost, modern and reliable new versions of classic synths. The originals need constant expensive maintenance and repair.
Hello fellow Ultravox fan. Well said. Yeah, John Foxx’s Metamatic is a very creative album. The album is far more electronic than Gary Numan’s album Pleasure Principle. Unfortunately for John Foxx, this first solo album after leaving Ultravox was released at nearly the same time as Numan’s and was overshadowed by Numan’s Pleasure Principle album and hit single Cars. Numan used acoustic drums and bass guitar throughout the Pleasure Principle album. John Foxx was using electronic drums and synth bass:
Back in the 1990s I bought an ARP Odyssey on Ebay. I had it for a while and loved playing it (maybe pretending I was Billy Currie from Ultravox, LOL), but I got so nervous that something was going to go wrong with it that I resold it on Ebay while it was still working. I didn’t have the money to ship it off somewhere for a potentially expensive repair. Decades later, Behringer provided some affordable alternatives to those inspired by Chris Cross’s Minimoog bass and Billy Currie’s Odyssey leads.
I did like the Ultravox albums with John Foxx, but I was more partial to the later albums with Midge Ure. The Odyssey solo that Billy Currie did at 2:55 in this song is one of my favorites of his:
I also like the long Odyssey solo that he did at 4:36 in this song:
Have a great day / evening.
ill order a few wasps also
Yeah, it’s got to be on the cards.
With so much time spent unable to deliver products they’ve surely burnt through their reserves.
This is a solid effort to kickstart their business.
Of course, with all their eggs in the China basket and given China’s intractable position on Taiwan and support of Russia….It simply is a matter of time for critical western businesses to diversify their overseas investments before biting sanctions will be applied.
Don’t expect music tech to be exempt.
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please increase the indent or other mechanism. after a couple of responses, I need a ruler to tell which responses goes with what. do some web development, don’t just sit there dude.
Damn! This will make the inflation plummet down! Behringer should begin to produce food too! Or maybe not…
You’d buy all your food from China?
Do you REALLY think a lot of your food DOESNT come from China?
I feel like if I showed up to a gig with a System 35 the sound person/other artists would rip me a new one. Even if I made amazing music other people would just see the behringer label. Other synth manufactures speak about equity but behringer actually is making hardware music production more accessible and equitable. Viva la synth revolution
I can’t tell if you’re being serious–that other people’s/strangers opinions would influence you so much.
I do know this group think sheep mentality going around like a plague is why “the arts” (music especially) suck so bad right now.
if you are in a studio, recording an album, you are making music without someone in your ear crying about the “B” on the device. I promise you: no one is lugging a System 35 around to shows 😛
“the price cuts are big enough that they will significantly disrupt the market”
You mean the market being driven 90% by “no lowballs. I know what I got” speculative sellers?
The synth market has been driven mad post pandemic by the same kinds of people who thought buying $2000 video cards was a sound investment. There’s no such thing as reasonably priced used gear anymore. I have zero sympathy for those people.
(shrug) B has behaved in such a skeevy manner, the main thing I want is a rubber body mallet for whacking the bleep out of their gear when it starts crapping out. They should sell one with their logo on it. You could do a Pete Townshend-style smash onstage. I mostly prefer softsynths now, so that’s all the B-hate I can muster.
Say, who fed Trey the mushrooms? That’s Muppet-talk, dude!
1. There is no «post pandemic».It will still be here for at least two more years. We’re post restrictions – which is somewhat different.
2. I checked Europen prices on Boog Sys55, they haven’t moved as of yet. But! When – and if – they do I will have that sys55. I’ll build my own case for it – with enough room to fit the 2500 modules as well. Not that I need it for my music, but if it gets that cheap – I want it only to have a nice hobby on the side. I also think that the price drop is ace for kids starting out on analogue synths. Kudos to Uli for that.
Maybe in your circle. Where I live, I haven’t even seen a mask in 2 years, aside from the RARE Karen at Target. In the US, only west coast or northeast cities are still riding that scamdemic D. I’m guessing you’re UK since you said “ace”.
I have all of both the 2500 and 55 modules, plus a large batch of mutable modules. there are pluses and minuses. the good part is you can solve all the minuses with a soldering iron (and desoldering, the hakko makes a fine one). the short straw is the audio taper pots, the rest are fairly benign to most users. also, you may find the white LED’s dim after about 5K hours. I’m planning a ‘standard’ System 55 build in a custom wood cabinet too – with all the normaling, trunk lines, and mods. Amsynths and AION both make excellent 984 4×4 mixer, AMsynths does the 993 trigger module too. Rob Keeble’s 2500 designs are wonderful.
the cat at $200 looked too good to pass up. so i checked some of the amazon reviews and seems like they all come with osc sync and glide issues. which kindly reminded why i have no behringer in my studio and ended my 3-tier 70hp fantasy real quick.
still may end up with the 962 sequential switch since it seems like no one else makes that.
A couple things to think about while you ride off on your high horse:
1. Those cat issues have been resolved with firmware updates and/or didn’t even exist in the first place.
2. Your basis is AMAZON reviews? lol. okay. Pretty much the most idiotic/hasty reviews on the net.
3. I’ve had big issues with “reputable”/expensive synths over the years, like the LCDs broke in the first month on both a Virus C and a prophet ’08 , not to mention serious bugs that were never fixed by Waldorf, Arturia (they are the absolute worst, will never buy another Arturia anything). The list goes on. Have you ever visited a moog one forum?
4. Haven’t had any issues with any of Behringer’s synths, though I am sure they exist, like EVERY synth maker.
Anywayz hope you enjoy your Behringer Cat when you get it!
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Good luck finding the original Cat without any components being aged and show signs of issues. Just a extra reminder for you.
That tells you that Behringer has a hell of a markup on these things. When you make knockoffs in China, the overhead must be really low.
McDonald’s charges a buck for a Coca-Cola, and it costs them a few cents.
If you ignore labor costs, everything is cheap!
You buy absolutely nothing made overseas?
You post the same idiotic comment on every post. Come up with something new dude, you’re boring us!
It’s an apropos comment that exposes the hypocrisy of those who slam Behringer for making products in China and yet think nothing of buying other products made in China and elsewhere overseas (products made in those locations to keep costs down).
Tim, you are losing the argument again. This is not exclusively about things made in China! That is absurd, this is about behaviour, conduct, and unethical business practices! Why is this so difficult for you to grasp!
The topic at this point in the comments section is about labor costs, not business ethics.
Jert’s right. It is idiotic.
Your comments remind me of smart arse adolescents. Which may or may not be a compliment.
Save your breath, brother. It’s exactly like trying to reason with trumpists – it can’t be done :-))
I am sure a mug of Coke costs McD more than a few cents..
Behr… actually have very low overheads. They need to sell massive amounts of gear to make any money at all…
Without the support of the chinese state they probably would gave folded years ago..
Dude, the time I remember prices of all brands of synth being the cheapest was 2018, maybe 2019. You could get a new 16 voice REV2 for $1700 or a Deepmind module for $600. A legitimate claim cannot be made that the prices have returned to what they once were. That would be way cool though.
Prices on Reverb are vastly inflated anyway. You basically pay sellers for making pretty pictures of their gear.
agreed. i always price my stuff to move. price gouging musicians is for the gearsnob crowd. if I don’t like it, someone else will. I have a slew of moogferfooger pedals i have to packup and resell. I’ll charge what i bought ’em for, or the low price whichever moves them out of my house.
I will happily buy your moogerfoogers, if you are planning to sell them at regular musician prices 🙂 its sad how much reverb has damaged the used equipment marketplace.
This isn’t as much a Behringer story as it is more evidence that the rest of the synth industry, Sequential, Oberheim, Groove, Moog are still willing to screw you over what was a problem with chip shortages 18mo ago.
I went to NAMM shows consistently from 1982 to 1992.
In 1989 I sold my Juno-60 for $200 with an Anvil case.
In 2002 I sold my OB8 for $1200.
Why? Because hybrids, digital, samplers, drum machines, FM and ROMplers blew away analog at the time for a lot of players. I think some players today are retuning to these products, or at least the used market for them is growing on Reverb in my opinion.
Uli is returning his pricing to that of the used analog market from the 1990s. Not to provide value, not to do you all a favor, not to democratize analog.
IMO, he’s doing it to:
Keep his manufacturing fully engaged (it is a plant in China, remember?), to ensure his cost of goods remain stable. Keeping a manufacturing plant engaged is huge. A factory running at less than capacity is a huge financial black hole.
Ensure he can quickly sell through his allotted instrument quantities and recoup costs.
Keep the internet buzzing about his company.
Make the announcement right before NAMM in an attempt to deflect attention from companies releasing actual innovative products.
Ensure the his company is seen as a disrupter rather than an innovator. This is a shame because he’s obviously brilliant. Imagine what they could do if he spun off a Synth company to push the design work forward rather than this continuous money grab?
Anyway, I’ve seen cheap prices on analog before. It ended up driving innovation from other companies. My bet is that it will happen again, and that Uli will be left wondering what to copy next. They have so much potential, yet are committed to such a boring product development philosophy.
As an owner of a deepmind 12 for more than 6 years now. I can tell you all that it is a very good, solid, versatile well built and A m a z i n g ! Sounding analog polySynth. It could be (for me) a good affordable replacement for my amazing but very ‘old-hard to maintain” CS-80. I see today on 2023 my yamaha more than a investment for a rainy day and my Behringer always put an smile in my face everytime. Also i highly recommend for you to get the software to control several parameters/functionality of the synth in your computer. You can write me if you are interested in getting this software. Sincerely Sid
Mm, but what replaces that polyphonic aftertouch keybed and ribbon control? The UB-Xa keyboard will have polyphonic aftertouch but no ribbon control, while the HydraSynth has ribbon control but is still a (very nice) digital synth…
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Prices here in the UK appear to be far higher. The System 35, for example, is £1589.
people aren’t buying there gear anymore hence the price drops. lets be honest
Clearly their dropping prices on things that aren’t selling well, even when they’re not manufacturing a lot.
It looks like gear that seems to be selling well – like the D or the Pro-1 – isn’t getting significant price cuts.
Hello, are you not able to read or understand the article text?
The price drop is based on supply improvements, not on stuck stocks.
It’s a pretty big assumption that a Behringer press release presents a full and accurate picture of the situation.
All hail King Uli
love my 3 behringer synths no problem with any of them,some times people have got stuff that is not maybe callibrated as well as it could have been who i know,thats the difference-its cheaper so not as much attention on quality control,i met one of the synth designers who used to work at Midas at synth fest, he was great to talk to and very knowledgable.So happy with mine:),they are not exact clones but very usable and im glad that people with less cash can get some nice kit!,I use/used some of the best gear money can buy mks80/jupiter 4/expander etc.,still like these.Also who has great ethics, we all make mistakes and I dont buy all this moaning about them.The capitalist system we live under has exploitation built into it at the core,its unequal in its very nature,i am not against ethics,there is room for everyone in the market,dont despair,relax and go focus on some other aspect of the world you are unhappy with! or be chill,its all the same,good luck and make music if you can get the time.