Propellerhead Record Is Not A DAW!

propellerhead-recordSorry, readers.

We have a correction to make. A mea culpa to fess up to. A blogging confession.

Earlier today, we reported on Propellerhead Record, calling it “a new digital audio workstation application” (DAW).

We use the term digital audio workstation, like pretty much the whole world, to refer to “an electronic system designed to record, edit and play back digital audio.”

Propellerheads Software contacted us, though, to ask us to not to refer to Propellerhead Record as a DAW:

It is NOT a DAW and we’d appreciate it if you didn’t refer to Record as a DAW.

Yep, we told you wrong. So we want to be the first to set the record straight.

Propellerhead Record Is Not A DAW

When Propellerhead explains that Record is an application for recording, arranging and mixing audio, that little lightbulb went off in our minds and we thought “Propellerhead Record = DAW”.

Our bad!

We corrected our previous article on Propellerhead Record to help eliminate any confusion over whether Record is a DAW:

Propellerhead Software has officially unveiled Record, not a digital audio workstation application, but ” a whole new take on music recording” that “combines effortless recording and a stunning software mixer console with a limitless rack of audio processing gear that builds itself or can be infinitely customized.”

We’re not sure why Propellerhead is sensitive about the “DAW” term, but we figure that the company’s trying to carve out its own space in the marketplace, and not trying to compete feature to feature against DAW’s like Apple’s Logic Pro.

Propellerhead Record will retail for $299. Add in the cost of Propellerhead Reason, and you’re looking at some fairly serious dough to put together a complete Propellerhead-based recording solution – that’s not a DAW – compared to a full-fledged DAW like Apple Logic ($500).

Time will tell if Propellerhead Record can carve out a new place in the market – a place for audio recording and mixing applications that don’t try to compete against full-fledged digital audio workstations.

What do you think of Propellerhead Record and the idea that it’s not a DAW? Leave a comment with your thoughts!


136 thoughts on “Propellerhead Record Is Not A DAW!

  1. Very acurate! They are just arogant, big players wannabe. They rock at time of reason 1 and rebirth but sence even garage band (free!) can do easier and give more at time of the rush! Record is so limited that is not funny so maybe we should call it LDAWWN Limited Digital Audio Workstation Worth Nothing!

    Suck this Propellerheads oIo

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  2. Vladimir my friend try something else and you will see that they sucks. Reason= very usable Record= very limited (enoying) Attitude= they can behave like that to they mums because I'm not buying they stuff even if it's the only s…. on the planet! We are the ones who buying they stuff and look how they treat the people who trying to help us with the news and help us to decide where is good to spend/save our money.

    Thank you propellerhead

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  3. Vladimir my friend try something else and you will see that they sucks. Reason= very usable Record= very limited (enoying) Attitude= they can behave like that to they mums because I'm not buying they stuff even if it's the only s…. on the planet! We are the ones who buying they stuff and look how they treat the people who trying to help us with the news and help us to decide where is good to spend/save our money.

    Thank you propellerhead

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  4. Vladimir my friend try something else and you will see that they sucks. Reason= very usable Record= very limited (enoying) Attitude= they can behave like that to they mums because I'm not buying they stuff even if it's the only s…. on the planet! We are the ones who buying they stuff and look how they treat the people who trying to help us with the news and help us to decide where is good to spend/save our money.

    Thank you propellerhead

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  5. Vladimir my friend try something else and you will see that they sucks. Reason= very usable Record= very limited (enoying) Attitude= they can behave like that to they mums because I'm not buying they stuff even if it's the only s…. on the planet! We are the ones who buying they stuff and look how they treat the people who trying to help us with the news and help us to decide where is good to spend/save our money.

    Thank you propellerhead

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  6. Vladimir my friend try something else and you will see that they sucks. Reason= very usable Record= very limited (enoying) Attitude= they can behave like that to they mums because I'm not buying they stuff even if it's the only s…. on the planet! We are the ones who buying they stuff and look how they treat the people who trying to help us with the news and help us to decide where is good to spend/save our money.

    Thank you propellerhead

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  7. Vladimir my friend try something else and you will see that they sucks. Reason= very usable Record= very limited (enoying) Attitude= they can behave like that to they mums because I'm not buying they stuff even if it's the only s…. on the planet! We are the ones who buying they stuff and look how they treat the people who trying to help us with the news and help us to decide where is good to spend/save our money.

    Thank you propellerhead

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  8. you shouldn't get insulting with these idiotic Magritte-like comparisons of what is and what is not… it's just a matter of semantics so let it go!

    i use Ableton Live primarily, some people call it a DAW others call it a performance tool with some DAW-like features…whatever!

    when you find a piece of gear and get accustomed to it and it becomes an integral part of your workflow, who cares what it's called? some people have managed to make incredible boundary pushing music without DAW, like everyone using MPCs, or Monolake before the Ableton days, who mainly used Reaktor and Max/MSP…

    it's not the size of your piece that matters, it's what you can do with it!

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  9. you shouldn't get insulting with these idiotic Magritte-like comparisons of what is and what is not… it's just a matter of semantics so let it go!

    i use Ableton Live primarily, some people call it a DAW others call it a performance tool with some DAW-like features…whatever!

    when you find a piece of gear and get accustomed to it and it becomes an integral part of your workflow, who cares what it's called? some people have managed to make incredible boundary pushing music without DAW, like everyone using MPCs, or Monolake before the Ableton days, who mainly used Reaktor and Max/MSP…

    it's not the size of your piece that matters, it's what you can do with it!

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  10. you shouldn't get insulting with these idiotic Magritte-like comparisons of what is and what is not… it's just a matter of semantics so let it go!

    i use Ableton Live primarily, some people call it a DAW others call it a performance tool with some DAW-like features…whatever!

    when you find a piece of gear and get accustomed to it and it becomes an integral part of your workflow, who cares what it's called? some people have managed to make incredible boundary pushing music without DAW, like everyone using MPCs, or Monolake before the Ableton days, who mainly used Reaktor and Max/MSP…

    it's not the size of your piece that matters, it's what you can do with it!

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  11. you shouldn't get insulting with these idiotic Magritte-like comparisons of what is and what is not… it's just a matter of semantics so let it go!

    i use Ableton Live primarily, some people call it a DAW others call it a performance tool with some DAW-like features…whatever!

    when you find a piece of gear and get accustomed to it and it becomes an integral part of your workflow, who cares what it's called? some people have managed to make incredible boundary pushing music without DAW, like everyone using MPCs, or Monolake before the Ableton days, who mainly used Reaktor and Max/MSP…

    it's not the size of your piece that matters, it's what you can do with it!

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  12. you shouldn't get insulting with these idiotic Magritte-like comparisons of what is and what is not… it's just a matter of semantics so let it go!

    i use Ableton Live primarily, some people call it a DAW others call it a performance tool with some DAW-like features…whatever!

    when you find a piece of gear and get accustomed to it and it becomes an integral part of your workflow, who cares what it's called? some people have managed to make incredible boundary pushing music without DAW, like everyone using MPCs, or Monolake before the Ableton days, who mainly used Reaktor and Max/MSP…

    it's not the size of your piece that matters, it's what you can do with it!

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  13. you shouldn't get insulting with these idiotic Magritte-like comparisons of what is and what is not… it's just a matter of semantics so let it go!

    i use Ableton Live primarily, some people call it a DAW others call it a performance tool with some DAW-like features…whatever!

    when you find a piece of gear and get accustomed to it and it becomes an integral part of your workflow, who cares what it's called? some people have managed to make incredible boundary pushing music without DAW, like everyone using MPCs, or Monolake before the Ableton days, who mainly used Reaktor and Max/MSP…

    it's not the size of your piece that matters, it's what you can do with it!

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  14. i used to use cracked software to make music…when i realised i wanted to pro and that my music what worth being heard by other people, i started paying for gear… i have a cracked version of Reason on my computer but never use for actual music production…even thought about buying version 5…ultimately it is better, i think, to get a piece of software you like working with, after trying it extensively even though it's illegal to use cracked software….and eventually when you realise you need it in your workflow, commit to it!

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  15. i used to use cracked software to make music…when i realised i wanted to pro and that my music what worth being heard by other people, i started paying for gear… i have a cracked version of Reason on my computer but never use for actual music production…even thought about buying version 5…ultimately it is better, i think, to get a piece of software you like working with, after trying it extensively even though it's illegal to use cracked software….and eventually when you realise you need it in your workflow, commit to it!

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  16. i used to use cracked software to make music…when i realised i wanted to pro and that my music what worth being heard by other people, i started paying for gear… i have a cracked version of Reason on my computer but never use for actual music production…even thought about buying version 5…ultimately it is better, i think, to get a piece of software you like working with, after trying it extensively even though it's illegal to use cracked software….and eventually when you realise you need it in your workflow, commit to it!

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  17. i used to use cracked software to make music…when i realised i wanted to pro and that my music what worth being heard by other people, i started paying for gear… i have a cracked version of Reason on my computer but never use for actual music production…even thought about buying version 5…ultimately it is better, i think, to get a piece of software you like working with, after trying it extensively even though it's illegal to use cracked software….and eventually when you realise you need it in your workflow, commit to it!

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  18. i used to use cracked software to make music…when i realised i wanted to pro and that my music what worth being heard by other people, i started paying for gear… i have a cracked version of Reason on my computer but never use for actual music production…even thought about buying version 5…ultimately it is better, i think, to get a piece of software you like working with, after trying it extensively even though it's illegal to use cracked software….and eventually when you realise you need it in your workflow, commit to it!

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  19. i used to use cracked software to make music…when i realised i wanted to pro and that my music what worth being heard by other people, i started paying for gear… i have a cracked version of Reason on my computer but never use for actual music production…even thought about buying version 5…ultimately it is better, i think, to get a piece of software you like working with, after trying it extensively even though it's illegal to use cracked software….and eventually when you realise you need it in your workflow, commit to it!

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  20. When is the last time you used FL Studio? Right now, FL is the fastest way to arrange, period. Look at cakewalk now adapting a step sequencer that FL has had for ten years. There are nearly 5 complex steps in Cubase 5 in order to chop up a sample and trigger it on a pad. In FL you drop it into built in slicer and it automaps and you are done.

    Don't knock FL just because you didn't like it 4 years ago. It shits all over all other DAW's in terms of arranging. A few core elements remain problematic but they are being addressed.

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  21. I've allways liked the power and simplicity of reason. I did complete arrangements on a g4 powerbook.

    Version 4 added to much complexity.

    I don't know record, but I just think that the combo of reason + record is just to expensive. So when I finally decided I absolutely needed audio tracks I settled for Logic: it's cheaper, beautifully integrated and it's got wonderfull software-instruments and effects.

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  22. I still think it is a pity they did not bring audio into reason by simply modeling something like a AKAI D8.

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  23. The only failiers now in reason are 1. It doesn’t support vst, vsti’s 2. You have to use recycle outside of reason to sample, you end up with folders all over the place with all the extra steps involved and slows work flow.

    Reason+Record built into one program + drag and drop sampling inside reason without having to use recycle + vst support = the ultimate all in one DAW no need for any other programs. The effects in reason are the worst quality of all daws but if they allowed vst’s than it would not matter because all the best effects are vst’s anyway.

    If it was an all in one program with the vst support I would have no problem paying 600 for basic and 800 for the sampled library instrument versions.

    At this point FL Studio and Ableton Live have it beat at the price and options. If they just add vst support and combine internal sampling with more and better quality effects they would put ableton and FL out of business and steal a lot of PT and Logic users but they seem to be greedy marketing fools actually hurting their profit by not doing these things.

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  24. Hm well Record is a workstation that deals with audio that is digital. So the three words that best describe it are:
    1. Digital
    2. Audio
    and…
    3. Workstation

    Hmm that abbreviates to "DAW." Well lets just call it a "WDA" to avoid confusion. "DAW" is already used by other companies to describe some other software such as Pro Tools which I think is a kinda word processor or something.

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  25. reason doesnt limit.. you just dont know how to use it… the problem is not reason or record… its you

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  26. anyone who is complaining about using the dongle either hasnt ever had pro tools, even le required the audio interface, is ignorant, or is planning on illegally using reason+record. i wish every program would use the same ilok system. it protects you, as well as them. i am completely against downloading illegal software and music, movies etc. so they make millions…… they worked hard on whatever you are stealing, and by stealing you are one of the reasons the economy is tanking. cheapskates and thieves. and you were cheap before the economy, so dont give me any bs that you were not. there is alot of plug ins that i wish i had that i cannot afford, still i havent used any pirated crap.

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  27. Record is a daw = digital audio workstation, especially if you have reason/ record combo is a major daw with a helluva mixer.

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  28. Seems to me they are just adding the rest of the program they should have included in the first place.

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  29. how fuckin sad is this heated debate………………..
    a political retards or what. Half the worlds starving!!! or getting bombed .

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  30. Reason +Record is as much a DAW as a Tomato is a fruit
    obviously it’s genetics prove that is a DAW, but to me it is so much more
    it’s more like a giant VST when using Rewire
    and with its virtual hardware rack, is it not a peice of “Virtual Studio Technology”?
    I’d consider it more of a VST workstation with the ability to work as a standalone DAW
    But seriously, it fits the DAW criteria
    so it is what it is

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  31. It’s a DAW. No sell without VST or AU support. Plain stupid move IMHO. BTW that SSL lookalike ain’t a mixer, it’s a sound twisting tool.

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  32. the only problem with record is that it needs to be cracked (talkin about the 1.5) version…it does seem exptremely badass

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